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August 14, 2015 06:52 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“How many things there are concerning which we might well deliberate whether we had better know them.”

–Henry David Thoreau

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23 thoughts on “Friday Open Thread

    1. Half the battle is figuring out the difference between an actual offer to help repay our loans and offers that look like they want to help us but really just want to profit off of us.

  1. Biden is looking more and more like a candidate. My guess:  he and Bernie team up and put the Biden-Sanders ticket on the field.

    I can hear the solgan now:  Septuagenarians for the Future!

    1. Biden's a good guy who's generally well grounded, but before he was VP he was tied a bit too tightly to Delaware constituents corporations for my liking.

      You have to like the thought of a President who, as a Senator, consistently rode the train back home to Delaware though.

      1. If we have to look for a not HRC, I think this could be a good time for Biden. I'm increasingly concerned that, if anything, she is less liked and less trusted than when she lost to Obama in 2008.Her negatives are way too high. I find myself hoping  that something damaging enough to blow her out of the water comes out of this e-mail investigation ASAP while there's still time to go another route. I love Bernie but believe he's got a ceiling and, outside of New Hampshire, that ceiling isn't high enough. Three generations of my family feel the same way I do. We'll vote for her but we won't like it. Will enough of the shrinking middle do the same? I'm sick to death of the Clinton establishment hegemony but  we appear to be stuck with it.

        1. The email thing's as much of a non-starter as Benghazi. Today's AP story unintentionally shows just how lame the whole thing is. From the article:

          Clinton did not transmit the sensitive information herself, [the anonymous intelligence source] said, and nothing in the emails she received makes clear reference to communications intercepts, confidential intelligence methods or any other form of sensitive sourcing.

          The more I read, the more this sounds like the intelligence community trying to classify anything and everything they can possibly lay their hands on, all the way down to the address of the McDonald's where they buy their morning meals.

          1. Just a desperate thought…. could we look for a not HRC anyway? Uh-oh, I think I hear the roar of the Clinton/Establishment juggernaut bearing down on me….gotta run!

      2. A bit too much of a War on Drugs architect for my own liking. Biden was part of a wave of Democrats and Republicans that unjustifiably put whole generations of minorities into prison.

        1. Back then every Dem with any political ambitions had to jump on every tough on crime bandwagon to prove they weren't bleeding heart libs. The thing about politics is…. it's politics. Just like after 9/11 every Dem with serious presidential ambitions had to vote for Cheney/GW's war. Nobody ever got elected to high office by emulating Mother Teresa or Albert Schweitzer.

          HRC had to vote for war because she was a woman with presidential ambitions and had to be extra tough. Not that she hasn't always been something of a hawk in any case and never had a problem with being hard as nails. Kerry was told by his advisers that if he voted against and it turned out to be the successful cakewalk Cheney promised it would be he could kiss his presidential aspirations goodbye. The story is he really struggled with it but, in the end, decided to play it the way his advisers told him to.  

          Nobody gets to the presidency without getting a little scuffed up along the way during their political rise. Nobody arrives in the WH pure as the altruistic driven snow.  So, when push comes to shove, you have to pick among candidates who are all compromised one way or the other.

          Certainly I'm not presuming to tell you to support Biden in spite of your of differences with him and everybody has different priorities that come into play when judging what and how much can be tolerated in a candidate they're still willing to support. Biden's quite along shot at this point anyway so it's probably moot.

          For me, I'll support HRC if she's the only viable option and I suppose she is but it's going to require a lot more tolerance than I would need to muster in order to support Biden. I like Biden. I think he's a far finer human being on his worst day than HRC will ever be on her best.

          1. I don't have to support Biden? Thanks, because I will never support–and probably never forgive–him for introducing such an un-American concept as a "Drug Czar," let alone for being an architect of racist mandatory minimum penalties that have overburdened our American prison system.

  2. Interesting read from Mike Littwin at the Colorado Independent:

    The latest from Iowa — via The Washington Post — is that the TRUMP bus, minus the Donald himself, is drawing cheering crowds in parking lots from around the state. Apparently you can slap the Trump name even on a bus and it sells.

    And now, it has gotten to the point where Trump is sufficiently impressed by his poll numbers — and by himself, of course — that he’s spending his own money to hire on-the-ground (or in-the-bus) staff in Iowa. The Postheadlines the story this way: “An Iowa surprise: Donald Trump is actually trying to win.”

    http://www.coloradoindependent.com/154890/littwin-panic-in-the-presidential-race

    He's long been one of my favorite reads 🙂

  3. Jeb Bush — an even bigger idiot than his brother?

    [Jon Soltz] had planned to write an op-ed critiquing [JEB!’s] major foreign policy speech from this week, in which Bush falsely pinned blame for ISIS on President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and gave a terrible vision of what he would do different. These plans would include arming "Syrian moderates" who our intelligence says don't exist. I had planned to explain why the surge was a failure in Iraq, and was merely an attempt to hand the situation off to the next administration.

    But, as Jeb Bush is prone to do, he stepped all over his speech just 24 hours later by saying, "I'll tell you, taking out Saddam Hussein turned out to be a pretty good deal."  Thus, Jeb erased the entire speech he just delivered.

    .

    That Jeb considers this — in any way — to be a good deal for the United States is the core of why Jeb Bush is not qualified to be the Commander in Chief. Anyone who thinks the war in Iraq was a "pretty good deal" should be nowhere near the command structure of the United States military, ordering our men and women in uniform into harm's way, lest they send our men and women to sacrifice their lives for another neoconservative failure.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/embarrassing-jeb-bush-fli_b_7989504.html

    Unbelievable!

    1. The narrative that Jeb was the smart one may have been a tad exaggerated. Poor GHW. An honest to God Phi Beta Kappa with these lumps for sons, just like their dim mother. No wonder he so enjoyed hanging out with Rhodes Scholar Bill. Somebody he could have an interesting conversation with.

        1. That is super creepy Bush background. High financial crimes, security cover-ups, insider trading, mysteriously run-over corpses….Malloy always used to call them the "Bush crime family." Not so far off, apparently. Walker Stapleton didn't fall far from the family tree.

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