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October 07, 2015 06:50 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Any truth is better than indefinite doubt.”

–Arthur Conan Doyle

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    1. Sounds like after studyng how they got Romney/Obama so wrong ( seriously wrong margin on the side of the wrong winner on election eve while supposedly left leaning PPP picked the right winner by very close to the right margin) in that general with a view toward improving their methodology they have concluded that things are so crazy in GOPland this year it's better to stay out of it than to see their reputation suffer any more. Choosing incomplete over F, I guess.

      1. But even though the elected GOP majorities at every level overwhelmingly support them it's still best to vote Republican because their conservative trickle down economics have been demonstrated to be working so-o-o-o darned well for most of us, right CHB? Not voodoo at all! Plenty of revenue from tax breaks for the richest stimulating the economy so there's plenty of funding available for all our infrastructure needs, great roads, bridges and dams, and the middle class is way bigger and more prosperous with way more upward mobility than in the bad old days with higher top marginal rates, smaller wealth gap and the rest of us and our infastructure being dragged down along with the suffering rich.

        Oh wait. Those bad old days before trickle down became king were the days when our middle class was the fastest growing, most prosperous and our economy was providing the greatest degree of upward mobility the world had ever seen. Now we're not even close to number one in those catgories. They were the days of great, visionary infrastructure projects that were the envy of the world.

        Never mind. Think I'll keep just saying "no" to voting for any Republican under any circumstances ever.

    2. So I was on a tour of the Palace of Westminster earlier today. When we got the House of Commons Chamber, the tour guide mentioned that while the speaker of the House is usually a member of the party which won the last general election, he or she quits his or her party affiliation upon election as speaker as part of a commitment to be impartial and fair to all political parties. She also talked about members "pairing off" when they are opposite sides of an issue at voting time because the members have developed some trust in one another.

      I almost lost it laughing when she explained that. One of the Canadians in our group made a crack about what happens in the US today when members try to work across the aisle. 

  3. This is today's GOP.  The disenfrancised conservatives may moan, but Louie Gohmert is the face of today's GOP.  Hell the CO GOP is flying him in for a top dollar fundraiser he is such the posterboy for the Republican Party 2015.  

    The face of today's Republican Party.  

  5. Redoing the Disaster from 2003

    Look out students, teachers parents!!! Steve Schuck taking another run a "reform" in the Springs D-11 school district:

    More money spent "the same old way" is not the answer, said Steve Schuck, a longtime Colorado Springs developer who supports vouchers for students to attend schools of their choosing, pay-for-performance compensation systems for educators and "board candidates who will not be beholden to the teachers' union but to the kids they are elected to serve."

    Schuck gave $44,000 to the D-11 reform slate of 2003. He also supports the three new D-11 reform candidates, although campaign finance reports aren't out until next week, so contributions have not been made public.

    "We have a long history of concern about academic performance in D-11 and a failure to make meaningful progress over decades," Schuck said. "These candidates share my sense of urgency about the need to improve results and are committed to bringing pressure on the system to get outside the box and do things that improve performance."

    Although school boards are non-partisan, the reform team is amassing other heavy-hitting endorsements. Price lists local Republicans, including three state representatives and Steve Durham, chairman of the Colorado Board of Education who represents the 5th Congressional District. A Colorado Springs Housing and Building Association political action committee also endorses the team, Schuck said.

    Americans for Prosperity, an anti-tax advocacy group backed by billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch and which has an office in Colorado Springs, has not been a player, Price said. Americans for Prosperity spent $350,000 in the 2013 election to ensure a conservative school board majority retained control in Douglas County, north of Colorado Springs.

    The Independence Institute, a Denver libertarian think tank, has conducted local briefings for candidates, Price said.

    The plan is to make D-11 – the region's oldest and largest school district with about 28,000 students – the pre-eminent district in the region, she said, by focusing on students, not special interests.

    The names alone of those involved is enough to send shivers down my spine. My kids are out of school, so they're somewhat "safe". But none of us is truly safe from the radical, reactionary actions of these big-spending millionaires and billionaires who want to turn our schools away from their primary missions while attacking the general population of teachers and students who have very few options in responding to these nefarious attacks.

    They trashed education here in 2003. They trashed it in Douglas County, and they're ready to try it once again.

    1. No surprise there. The way our elections work mega bucks are needed. Obama did very well with small donors but he took his share of mega bucks too. Bennet is far from exceptional there. Apparently there's just something about him that gets under the skin of many of our progressive posters because he couldn't be more tyypical of the majority of elected Dems from the Prez down in this or anything else. Sure he comes from a more silver spoon background on his Dad's side but so do many Dems. His mom's side are Holocaust refugees who couldn't have gotten near a respectable country club.

      1. Hmmmm, I thought maybe the point of the article was more:

        "Democrats and Republicans:  On important aspects of tax policy, trade policy, and government regulation, both political parties have embraced an agenda over the past few decades that coincides far more with the economically regressive, free trade, and deregulatory orientations of the affluent than with the preferences of the middle class."

        and

        "The practical reality is that the Democratic Party is now structurally disengaged from class-based populism, especially a form of economically redistributive populism that low-to-moderate-income whites would find inviting."

        than whose forbears got to tee it up how long ago at what country club?!?

        ;~)

        3. Pretty much responding to the Thurston thumping remark. Just saying that the rationality of the whole singling out Bennet for particular demonization thing escapes me when Bennet, as your chosen quotes indicate, is a completely typical Dem and there's not a dime's worth of difference between him and Obama on almost any issue you can think of.  Also that he's only a half Thurston. wink And the wrong half, to boot.

          And "forebears" makes it sound like such a distant thing. It's his mom, not his great, great, great anything and you don't have to be ancient to remember all the places Jews weren't allowed. FYI, I remember them well from my teens and I don't even qualify for medicare yet. Heck, one of my Senator's lived in an entire suburb, not just a Country Club, that didn't allow Jews. We're not talking mists of long ago and far away here. Just sayin'.

          1. Well, Thurston, and his millions, are in the country club Senate now …

            … and the millions in the middle and working classes are still excluded.devil

    2. Senator Bennet could enhance his middle class credibility by proposing middle class tax cuts and charging it to the multi-millionaires/billionaires as I noted in an earlier post.

    2. One of more than a few recent, rather sudden instances of HRC taking policy stands on issues she had been avoiding in response to the popularity of Sanders and Dems like Elizabeth Warren. Kind of hard to argue with Priebus on this one. The new, more populist HRC doesn't strike me as very convincing either.

      Hmmmm… just thinking out loud here but if Biden, Obama's VP and friend, does decide to run, with no love lost between Obama and the Clintons, I wonder how that would work?

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