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March 23, 2016 07:25 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”

–Voltaire

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  1. Voter suppression of Democrats in Arizona – it probably would not have made a difference in the primary votes, as Hilllary had a 20-40 point lead on Sanders, depending on how many precincts had been counted.

    However, these shenanigans are really bad news for Democrats in the general election.  Thousands of Democrats waited hours in line, only to find at the end that their registrations had been switched to Independent or Republican, making them ineligible to vote for their candidates of choice. Trump had 14,000 more people vote for him than Clinton had for her, and this seems unlikely to be accurate given Arizona's demographics.

    Voter suppression in Arizona is real, and it must be fixed. Attorney General Loretta Lynch, we need your intervention.

    1. The next great challenge for the hacker group Anonymous will be to ensure the 2016 elections in the United States are held fairly and are not manipulated by the companies who make the voting devices. Mesa county commissioners just voted to spend over $600,000 for new machines..who knows how secure they are? 

      I don't think I am being paranoid either. I was an election judge a couple cycles ago and I remember all the controversy, even then. As the stakes go higher, the incentive to cheat increases. Hopefully, there is a way the good folks at Anonymous (I am a big fan) can help out as they claimed to in Ohio in 2012.

      They may be democracies’ last bastion.

  2. I think you're right , Duke, about the need for our own "cybersecurity" against top-down election fraud. Anonymous gave us the 2012 on-air meltdown of  Karl Rove regarding the Ohio vote returns, for which we can always be grateful

    I would also recommend that concerned people sign the petition to ask Attorney General Lynch to investigate voter suppression in Arizona. For you petition skeptics, only 100,000 are needed to require mandatory consideration, and 36,000 people have already signed.

    Again, this isn't a Sanders v. Clinton issue, or even really a Republican v Democrat issue – it's a voter rights issue.

  3. Hate the Vote in Wisconsin

    The most harmful provision buried in the bill effectively stops groups from organizing community voter registration drives. 

    Lawmakers justified the provision by claiming that online voter registration would make community registration drives unnecessary because anyone will be able to promote voter registration by directing people to online registration. However, the online system will require a driver’s license or state-issued identification card number. Local and national groups, including Project Vote, joined together to show lawmakers that the proposed online registration system would not be available to all eligible electors, disproportionately impacting students, veterans, older individuals, low-income people and people of color. We explained that it is community registration drives that often register the very people unable to use online registration. 

    Presented with this information, lawmakers refused to amend the law to preserve community registration drives or to expand access to the online registration system. We then asked Governor Walker to veto this provision, as no other state has tied online voter registration to the dismantling of community registration drives. But this request was swiftly ignored.

    The Radical Right Wing agenda continues full force in the states………R's keep losing elections, but they somehow always advance their issues.

    1. "Rs keep losing elections…….."  I don't think Scott Walker has lost a gubernatorial election yet. Quit complaining; if you don't like outcomes, then vote the other people in.

  4. If You Catch and Use Rainwater in Colorado, You are a Criminal

    Who says Republicans don't believe in science (or math)?

    To put this in perspective: one standard quarter-section of land with a final permit generally gave the farmer the right to pump up to 400 acre-feet of water on 160 acres. That single permit constituted the right to pump 130,340,400 gallons annually on the permitted acres. That number, divided by the rain barrel capacity limited to each household (2-55 gallon barrels) under the law, would equate to 1,184,912 homes deploying rain barrels to equal the same amount of water legally allowed under a single, 160-acre permit.  There are 1,197,868 households in Colorado.  If every single household in the state used rain barrels their one-time storage capacity would equal the pumping right to one quarter-section of irrigated land in Jerry's district.  

    At our peak, there were 250,000 irrigated acres in Yuma County.  The 160 acres used in my illustration would equal 0.00064% of the irrigated land in my county alone.

    My illustration is water drawn from aquifers (Ogallala) and not surface water rights, but the math is still applicable (160 acres with a 400 acre-foot surface water right would represent the same amount of water). The conclusion remains the same: their laughable position that rain barrels would have any effect on senior water rights. 

    But, their efforts could face challenges, as anti-water conservation lawmakers could potentially kill the bill. Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg (R-Sterling, CO), who was responsible for the demise of the rain barrel bill last year, could fight the bill once again.

    However, supporters of legalizing rain barrels argue that there is no net loss of water, so senior water rights remain unimpeded. Indeed, a study from Colorado State University noted that use of rain barrels would not decrease the amount of surface runoff going to downstream users, thereby negating the argument that opponents of rain barrel legalization have relied on. The study analyzed urban hydrology using Colorado-specific climatic conditions, and found that rain barrel use would not impact runoff, infiltration, or evaporation.

    Rain barrels (conservation), the Clean Power Plan (clean air and jobs).  It has to be exhausting to be on the wrong side of these arguments. 

     

    1. All the rain barrel bill does is put into statute the existing status quo. I've been using rain water off my roof since I bought my house in metro Denver almost 21 years ago. All of my neighbors' downspouts empty out into their yards. All of mine do, except one which ends up in the neighbor's side yard. The existing use of rain water that falls on citizens' property will never end unless the water police start going door-to-door and arresting people for interference with downstream water rights. I wonder how Sen. Sonnenberg would react to that sort of big government intrusion?

  5. Bunker in place!  I mean, hunker in place.

    As we await the inevitable loss of power with this blizzard, I thought it would be a good time to update you on the risk to our electrical power grid:

    1) Just last Christmas, 2015 the power grid for Kiev, Ukraine was hacked leaving about 230,000 people without power.  The Russians were probably responsible for this attack.

    2) Tim Cook, Apple CEO noted in a recent Time magazine article that "You can see scenarios that are not far-fetched at all where you can take down power grids by going through a smartphone."

    I recommend being prepared for a long lasting power outage as a potential worst case scenario.

    Enjoy our snow day, Denver!

      1. Thanks, Michael.  It's true regarding distributed generation.  Ted Koppel, in his book, "Lights Out" points to the decentralized nature of our energy distribution system that makes it easier to hack into a single point in the system (often, small companies that don't have the resources for elaborate security measures) and bring down the whole shebang.

         

    1. Turnabout is fair play. Last fall, power was disrupted into the Russian occupied Crimea due probably to Ukrainian hackers who sabotaged some power towers. Russia was spending a ton of money to run undersea cables from the east to Crimea since the only land bridge into the peninsula comes from Ukraine. 

      1. Fine.  My main point is that the US power grid is incredibly fragile and suspect to long-term (weeks and months) of disruption.  Imagine if, rather than a snowstorm where we know the cause and that power will be restored in hours or days, that the power grid is taken out by unknown hackers, and that it could last for months.  See Ted Koppell's book, "Lights Out" if you want to be freaked out.  I wouldn't expect conservatives to help at all, see: GW Bush, Katrina.

         

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          If you read the Mesa County Democratic Party platform, you will note one of the planks says just that about distributed systems. We are working hard to change the perception of these fracking fluid addicted valley rats. It is no longer 1957…the repitition of sun cycles indicate the passage of time…this fact has been lost on the leaders of the local GOP.   since…well, 1957.

           

  6. Hillary was wonderful discussing the Brussels attacks and the need to work with our allies to control terrorism.  She made Trump, who called for gutting NATO the  very day before the attacks, look like the ignorant lout he is.  Her argument against Trump's belief that there is no problem torture can't solve was irrefutable.  And her refutation of Cruz's demand to scapegoat Muslim Americans made him look like the Trump wannabe he is.  I was truly proud of her and for the first time in this campaign I saw a commander in chief speaking.  If I have to let my old uniform out a couple sizes and report back to duty — well, I can't, diabetes has seen to that.  But if my son has to go in my place, at least we have a leader with the judgment and intelligence to guide this nation to its rightful place in history.

    1. Didn't Trump refer to Brussels as a "hellhole" which used to be a beautiful city? Perhaps he will advocate building a wall around it. And make Mexico pay for it.

        1. I have to disagree about Kasich.  He called on the President to cut short his trip and return to the White House so he could make phone calls to other World leaders.  Like he can't make phone calls from Air Force One?  Obama's comment that disrupting our lives was doing exactly what the terrorists wanted was to the point.

    2. Feeding her incessant need to be seem as relevant, Michele Bachmann gets some ink with World Nut Daily. Apparently the Brussels terror attack was God smiting Obummer for holding hands with Raul and snubbing AIPAC? Who knew?!?

      Perhaps our good friend Moddy could break the news to his fellow faux-lifer that Israel has one of the most liberal abortion policies on Earth and universal health care? All that, and a strong focus on Cannabis research for health. Perhaps the two of them could join hands and demand no more foreign aid until they adopt Texas-like requirements for women's health? 

       

       

  7. Wanna be scared?  Check out this GOP focus group in St. Louis, MO just posted by Meet the Press: 

    One of us(!) sat in on a focus group of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents last night in St. Louis, Missouri. And our big takeaways might surprise you. Here’s what we learned: 1) Yes,Trump is going to have to change his tune if he’s going to solve the pretty significant problem he has with Republicans who still see him as unpresidential and crass. And even his fans think he needs to tone it down. 2) But that problem within his own party base has a lot less to do with Trump’s qualifications, ideology or policy positions than it does with his tone. And even Trump’s biggest supporters don’t think he’s *really* going to follow through on his most controversial plans. And 3) Even if he doesn’t stop acting like “a jerk,” as one critic put it, he’s got one big advantage in his favor in a potential general election matchup: Hillary Clinton. Clinton’s ability to galvanize the GOP base against her absolutely cannot be underestimated; these participants unhesitatingly described the Democratic frontrunner as “criminal” and even “evil.” Only one of the 12 participants in the group said they absolutely couldn’t vote for Trump, while the full dozen said there’s no circumstance in which they’d cast a vote for Clinton. When you’re considering general election matchups, there are lots of variables to consider, including the role of independents, crossover votes from disaffected non-college whites and mobilization of minority voters. But don’t forget to also factor in the unifying power of a Democrat that Republicans love, love, LOVE to hate

  8. Just last Christmas, 2015 the power grid for Kiev, Ukraine was hacked leaving about 230,000 people without power. The Russians were probably responsible for this attack.

    Why do you and others assume it’s always the Russians? They really do not have any interest in doing this.

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