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April 02, 2016 08:00 AM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

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  1. Trump is not going to get to the magic number – though he will be close.

    Then in Cleveland, he wont get it on the "bound ballots." (Everyone keeps saying first – but some states' delegates ae bound lounger"

    And even if he has the number, some states' delegates and alternates will be missing. Yes they are required to vote for Jeb or Marco or Trump  – but they are not required to vote.

    Ether way, we're on a later ballot.

    Think way, way back to when Gardner won.  We've all agreed his team ran the wrong campaign – but that's not why people fell for Gardner. they didn't know him.

    The GOTP is hard at work vetting unknowns who can maintain the front, and herd the disappointed Trumpsters for a few weeks.  Convention over by July- ballots in he mail in October.  ANd not "everywhere" – they don't need a 50-state campaign.

    They need Florida, PA and Ohio. WI and MI are bonus.

    It can't be someone we already hate – so not Romney or Bush.  Relatively unknown, not a complete unknown.  Someon who has been and can seem reasonable.  R for sure, but not crazy Jeff Sessions R.  Reagan Lite (weight) R. 

    And then HRC's negatives start to really hurt. The D's splintered because the Sanders supporters who felt spit on and disrespected go back to feeling alienated and outcast.  Bernie tells them it's not the way to go – and points to 30 years of disaffected lonerish caucusing and engaging with D's anyway.

     

    Then what?

    D's  better get the Senate, no mater how centrist, corporatey and impure they are.  R's in all three and most state legislatures will mean a big shift – SCOTUS and the bench, DOJ, DOD, DOE (gone), EPA (gone), DOC(gone)  and on and on. Years later moves will be made by and about women in prison for making their own decisions about their bodies.  And Trump will seem quaint.

     

     

     

    1. Agree. We need Dems to be in control of the agenda, the committees and the investigations. I doubt they can go wth someoe entirely differnt without fracturing the right so I'm pretty sure Dems will have the WH (so are oddsmakers) and we'll need a Dem Senate for Supreme Court nominations too. They can't filibuster for a full term. 

      1. Oddsmakers and pundits have so totally understood and forecast the Trump campaign so far.

        you have to think like Rs.

        it hurts, but it washes off.

        1. Odds makers at this point not are probably gettng more reliable. They adjust a lot quicker than pundits and pols do to new conditions. But I do think it's going to be very hard for the Rs to come up with a national win no matter what happens. Every option for them is bad.

          Gerrymandering and red state governors and legislatures will keep them strong even though their legslation keeps getting nullified in the courts but it's been hard enough and getting harder for them to win our one national contest even in a normal primary year with usual suspect candidates like McCain and Romney. I think they've gotten themselves into a place where they can't win with Trump and his spectacular, unprecedented deficit with women, never mind every minority, and they can't win without him because they lose a big chunk of his supporters and invite chaos.  I think they've screwed the pooch this time and so do a whole lot of senior R pols off the record.

  2. trump meditating"I tried this meditation thing, and let me tell you it was really great. Just tremendous. I know people who have been doing this a long time. I have lots of friends that meditate. I employ so many people who meditate. They love me. They tell me I'm the best meditator. I'm going to weave the greatest meditation rug ever. It will be beautiful. And trust me I will get them to pay for it. With me as your president, we will make meditation even better than before America." ‪#‎AprilFools‬

    "I'm going to give this compassion thing a try," said Trump, quoted by http://tricycle.org/

  3. Massive bribery, oil co, and banking scandal should finally put some bankers and other American corporate officers in jail. And Democrats, if they want to quit their tactic of only saying "we support the people" could actually do something to support them in reality – where they work, where they live, and where corporate American distorts markets and bribes  dictators to sell American goods and services.

    The overview and first story from this three part series have been releases. From the overview:

    A massive leak of confidential documents has for the first time exposed the true extent of corruption within the oil industry, implicating dozens of leading companies, bureaucrats and politicians in a sophisticated global web of bribery and graft.

    After a six-month investigation across two continents, Fairfax Media and The Huffington Post can reveal that billions of dollars of government contracts were awarded as the direct result of bribes paid on behalf of firms including British icon Rolls-Royce, US giant Halliburton, Australia’s Leighton Holdings and Korean heavyweights Samsung and Hyundai….

    Western firms involved in Unaoil’s Middle East operation include some of the world’s wealthiest and most respected companies: Rolls-Royce and Petrofac from Britain; US companies FMC Technologies, Cameron and Weatherford; Italian giants Eni and Saipem; German companies MAN Turbo (now know as MAN Diesal & Turbo) and Siemens; Dutch firm SBM Offshore; and Indian giant Larsen & Toubro. They also show the offshore arm of Australian company Leighton Holdings was involved in serious, calculated corruption.

    Under the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, this sort of thing is criminal. Moreover, even though the massive amounts of money involved and the fact that this took place all under the US’ nose make this all the more salacious, the FCPA is designed to bar even small bribes; the test is intent, not amount.

    Hey, maybe the Genius Political Strategists at CPOLS, the Professionals, would even support it!

    1. A blockbuster story indeed (even though I'm sure most here are not shocked… shocked) and one that's going to keep getting bigger over many news cycles. But come on, Zap. You couldn't manage to work the name Michael Bennet into your post? Wait. I'd better read it again just make sure. Nope. You're slipping.wink

    2. This is big. It could bring Cheney to justice. It could finally expose the reasons Bush went to war with Iraq instead of pursuing Bin Laden in Afghanistan.

      However, indictment and enforcement seem to be in the wheelhouse of the FCPA, overseen by the DOJ, under AG Loretta Lynch. Do they have the political will and enforcement muscle to see this through?

      That it’s being hidden by mainstream media does not bode well for justice for the half million Iraqis and 4500 Americans killed in the war with Iraq.

        1. True that.  Those scheming Bond villains fall victim to untimely, and usually gruesome, deserved fates, but they never are judged in court.   There's a natural order to things in this world. 

          1. Investigation would be multinational, complicated, but not impossible. There is probably already a petition to press AG Lynch to investigate at least KBR, Cheney's old company. KBR has already had to pay huge penalties for other bribery scandals. (see linked article).

            If we give  even limited justice up as a lost cause before an investigation even starts, they've already won.

            You know I'll keep you posted, whether you care or not.

  4. Laughing as they head to the poor house. 

     We have watched the slow and steady demise of two mighty media organizations, iHeart (formerly Clear Channel) and now Cumulus who have both supported Limbaugh and his ilk by carrying the extreme FOX propaganda shows on hundreds of radio stations throughout the country.

    Both radio networks have had ample chances to make amends to concerned consumers, but chose not only to ignore the people’s outrage and outcries, the two mega companies laughed and spit on the people. They saw no threat in a bunch of Facebook and Twitter users. And that was the beginning of their big fail, as that “bunch” has grown to hundreds of progressive organizations and hundreds of thousands of people taking action by signing petitions, forming groups, contacting sponsors and boycotting companies who continued to advertise with the likes of Limbaugh. The result has been a dramatic decrease in advertising revenue. When hundreds of companies like McDonald’s, Yahoo, Wal-mart, Ford and General Motors pull ads, the stations are going to take a massive hit. And they did. But iHeart and Cumulus refused to listen.

    Cut to the present — iHeart (formerly Clear Channel) has accrued $20 billion in debt and is facing bankruptcy. Now, Cumulus’ stock has fallen from $8.00 to $.46 (to date) over the last few years. Earlier this year, Cumulus reported a loss of over half a billion dollars in 2015, along with continuous Wall Street downgrades.  Moody's just downgraded Cumulus again. 

  5. It is the old Ted Kennedy dilemma, Daft one.  There was no question in his mind– nor is there in mine– that abortion ends a human life.  It is thus to me and my wife and daughter off the table.  At the same time, when our family faced this issue and jointly rejected abortion, we did it knowing that we could give our daughter the moral and economic support to bring her baby to term.  The 14 year old daughter of some exhausted single mom working at minimum wage may not make the same choice.  Most of us are pro life as a matter of personal conscience and pro choice as a matter of social policy.  Our wonderful granddaughter rewards our pro life beliefs every day.  But not every girl will make the same choice, nor should the government compel her to do so.

    1. Ken Salazar took pretty much the same position when he was seeking the Dem nomination for Senate. He assured Dems that he didn't feel that he had the right to impose his beliefs on others.

      This is something that many anti-choicers don't understand…. that many people who are pro-choice would never themselves choose abortion. It also is something that many pro-choicers don't understand.

      I think those who urged Udall to make this the centerpiece of his campaign in order to get the all important women's vote failed to understand the degree of ambivalence with which many Colorado women, including pro-choice women, view abortion and that presenting this as a Dem candidate's top priority issue just isn't as appealing to most women as they assume it must be. In canvassing I talked to many moderate Dem and Dem leaning indie women who expressed the opinion from the ads they were seeing that Udall was a pro-abortion "extremist", whatever that means, and that he didn't seem to care much about anything but abortion rights. That was a big turn off.

      I would only say that that I hope you realize that you and your wife's only role in that decision should have been restricted to requested input, not pressuring your daughter one way or the other. As long as it was truly her decision…. fine.

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