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November 22, 2017 07:16 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth; not going all the way, and not starting.”

–Gautama Buddha

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  1. What are you thankful for?

    I'm thankful for the people of Pueblo, who sharply questioned Cory Gardner at his stealth town hall on Monday, November 20, 2017. Gardner was in town to sell the #taxualassault GOP tax plan.

    I haven't seen the entire video yet, but there are some choice moments.

     

        2. Calling Senator Spokesmodel a weasel is probably too kind.

          Weasels Are Built for the Hunt

          At birth, the least weasel is as small and light as a paper clip, and the tiny ribs that press visibly against its silvery pink skin give it a segmented look, like that of an insect. A newborn kit is exceptionally underdeveloped, with sealed eyes and ears that won’t open for five or six weeks, an age when puppies and kittens are ready to be weaned.

          A mother weasel, it seems, has no choice but to deliver her young half-baked. As a member of the mustelid clan — a noble but often misunderstood family of carnivorous mammals that includes ferrets, badgers, minks and wolverines — she holds to a slender, elongated body plan, the better to pursue prey through tight spaces that most carnivores can’t penetrate. Bulging baby bumps would jeopardize that sylphish hunting physique.

          The solution? Give birth to the equivalent of fetuses and then finish gestating them externally on mother’s milk.

          “If you want access to small environments, you can’t have a big belly,” said William J. Zielinski, a mustelid researcher with the United States Forest Service in Arcata, Calif. “You don’t see fat weasels.”

          Like humans, weasels are secondarily altricial. Cory's built for donor service.

    2. It is one hour and 27 minutes!

      I have more important things to do. MJ, tell us – how does it compare with his experience in Durango a few months ago?

      1. My favorite moments are those when the salty elders confronted Cory on his doublespeak. I think that the crowd as a whole was more sedate than the Durango crowd, probably because of the three hefty security people there to protect Cory from his constituents, and a staffer who kept control of the microphone. Questioners could not hold their own mics. But there were still many sharp exchanges, plenty of booing and jeering when Gardner lied, which was often.

        1) at 12:50 Alvin Rivera asks him about why he's supporting a tax plan and Obamacare that will "hurt so many people", and why he's been silent on immigration. Cory responds with glibberish as usual.

        2) At 16:33 Ms. Cates (sp?) who questioned Cory about the rise of fascism, quoting Lincoln,  asked him if he would recognize Colorado's amendment 1A, denying corporate personhood, and that money is not speech. When Cory replied with glibberish, Ms. Cates mounted the stage and asked to use Cory's microphone (at 21:00) It took 3 staffers and 2 uniformed security men to escort the redoubtable Ms. Cates back to her seat.

        3)At 26:00 Ms Javenau asks Cory to commit to not vote for the tax plan, saying "Reagonomics does not work". In response, Cory claims the tax bill is "heading in the right direction", to general jeering. Then he shows some charts from the report of The National council of Economic Advisors. These charts have bogus data which seem to show that wage growth goes down when corporate tax rates go up. However, in the real world, the opposite is true. 

        The chart Cory showed, which you can look at on page 3 of this report,

        , seems to me to be taking credit for wage growth under Obama – era reforms, and attributing that to conservative policies. However, I’ll leave that analysis to the more economically literate Polsters.

        There are many more choice moments on here. Basically, Cory got his ass handed to him yet again. A couple of other “sweet old ladies” told Cory not to give them any BS when he answered. People were asking thoughtful, to the point questions, and he just yammered on and repeated his talking points.

        Put on the video in the background while you cook your turkey or whatever, R&R. It might give you some hope that the resistance continues.

  2. Happy Thanksgiving all. I'm thankful to live in a country that has the institutional capability and history to handle a no-nothing like Donald Trump as president.

    I'm also thankful for still being in reasonably good health; still breathing; and still "above ground."

  3. Here Are the White House Visitor Records the Trump Administration Didn’t Want You to See

    The Trump White House tried to block public access to visitor logs of five federal offices working directly for the president even though they were subject to public disclosure through the Freedom of Information Act. Property of the People, a Washington-based transparency group, successfully sued the administration to release the data and provided the documents to ProPublica.

  4. In today's GOP, this is actually kind of tame compared to other stuff that's being tolerated for the sake of a tax cut for rich people……

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/22/politics/texas-joe-barton-apology-graphic-picture/index.html

    Let's give a big hand to Rep. Joe Barton for owning up to this. No children, no relatives, and no animals were involved. Reportedly consensual with age-appropriate women. And since he's divorced, it's not adultery. 

    2. The flat earth guy's homemade rocket launcher broke down in his driveway….but he blames Big Gubmint for postponing his launch.  The BLM said that there had been no official contact with Hughes, but that's Hughes' story and he's sticking to it.

      I guess if one is setting out to prove the earth is flat, sourcing a quote doesn't matter much.

            1. That occurred to me after I posted.

              Although most of them do not buy into evolution or global warming, I have believe that most of them accept that the earth is round.

            2. To be fair, V….they were a minority of Americans!  It was an interesting Turkey Day here: two members of my family, both life-long registered Republicans, one a Trump supporter and one a Trump hater, couldn't keep from taking jabs at each other! 

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