Wednesday Open Thread

“If passion drives you, let reason hold the reins.”

–Benjamin Franklin

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  1. Libertad says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new

    Who knew that east coast city state gun laws could be so tough on the “average Joe”, certainly not David Gregory or Plaxico Burress.

    Luckily for Gregory he only faces a $1000 fine and up to  1 year in jail.

  2. Libertad says:

    Alert, immigration lawyers have a duty to help this killer self deport before he faces tougher sanctions such as say murder of a child.

    http://www.thedenverchannel.co

  3. Diogenesdemar says:

    our resident village idiot finally got those election results unwrapped . . . not the pink-bunny-jammy Christmas present he was hoping for, I guess?

    . . . the world didn’t end either.

    Apparently god and/or the Mayans are in on the conspiracy, too . . .

    (Hmmmm, . . . I wonder what ALCOA’s trading at today?)

  4. Libertad says:

    Here’s what Mr. Obama is facing ….

    * U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000

    * Fed budget: $3,820,000,000,000

    * New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000

    * National debt: $14,271,000,000,000

    * Recent budget cuts: $ 38,500,000,000

    Remove 8 zeros and pretend it’s a household budget:

    * Annual family income: $21,700

    * Money the family spent: $38,200

    * New debt on the credit card: $16,500

    * Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710

    * Total budget cuts so far: $3.85

  5. BlueCat says:

    after all. Santa clearly thinks we deserve this slightly belated lump of ‘tad …I’ll say “coal” to be classy… in our morning after thread. Must say it sure smells a lot worse than coal.

  6. dwyer says:

    REcap from 12.20.12

    Boehner proved not to have the votes to pass Plan B.

    He not only withdrew Plan B, but recessed the House.

    Now one of two things will happen:

    1) Boehner will call the House back into session before December 31st.

    2) Boehner will not call the House back into session before December 31st.

    Until Boehner makes one of those two decisions, nothing is going to happen.

    As of Christmas Eve, House Members had not received the 48 hour call to return for a vote. Boehner has not indicated when or if  he will issue such a call.

  7. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    Libertad made 3 main comments that were on specific issues. Not the issues that most here would pick. His viewpoint is 180 degrees from what most here would take on them. But they were political posts on the issues with an opinion no more snarky than many made about Republicans.

    And in return? About 95% ad-hominum attacks. For people that claim Liberatd won’t discuss the issues the replies were remarkably issue free.

    Kudos to Gertie & Duke who responded to Libertad’s budget comment with logical refutations.

    And yes Libertad has written bigoted pieces, personal attackes, ad-hominum attacks, and truly offensive pieces. But does that call for this level of response when he writes something who’s only offense is you disagree with his political opinions?

  8. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    The other 2 on the list of 3 are non-entities (one an assistant cabinet officer).

    So what happens next? There is a single election for the House seat. No primaries. Whatever Democrat wins it has that seat for life. And no one risks their existing seat by running as it’s a special election.

    So it will be a feeding frenzy. But…

    The one significant Republican running will be Charles Djou. So he will get 35 – 40% of the vote. If the Dem candidates split the vote enough, he’s got the seat till ’14.

    At that point he will probably lose. But the key word is probably as he’ll have close to 2 years to connect with all the voters in his district. Lingle got elected state-wide twice so a Republican can hold the seat.

  9. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    To the few who find the tad’s (Note lower case.) nothingness to be worthy of respect: Sorry. That’s just pitiful.

    To the many who can’t resist responding: Sorry. That’s pretty pitiful, too.

    Nihilistic flame throwing is just plain pitiful. That’s all the jerk does, and it pains me that folks whom I admire lend worth to his vacuity. Ruins a good day (See wasted open daily above).

    But, to quote one of my favorite drag queens, one Scarlet O’Hara: “Tomorrow, Tomorrow, I love ya, Tomorrow! Tomorrow’s just a day awaaaay.”

    Damn. Wrong drag queen. But you get the idea.     :) X 2

  10. PitaPita says:

    So I have to ask?  Have you hired on with the NRA?

  11. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    making here, Libby? Just slamming people with hispanic names?…dissing the Feds…? promoting channel 7…what?

  12. Libertad says:

    Should be interesting to see how DC prosecutes this obvious criminal activity. Hopefully Gregory can plea bargain this to a misdemeanor level charge, as his employment at NBC probably holds sanctions for felony convictions.

    Obviously he or other parties brought this outlawed weapon component across state/district lines. Are there other parties at risk, is Gregory willing to throw them under the bus to save his own skin, will VA or MD state authorities enter this investigation….?

  13. VoyageurVoyageur says:

    If anyone challenges your right to mass murder, accuse them of breaking the law.  There is zero chance that Gregory will be prosecuted for showing a high-capacity clip to Criminal Advocate Wayne LaPierre.

  14. VoyageurVoyageur says:

    If anyone challenges your right to mass murder, accuse them of breaking the law.  There is zero chance that Gregory will be prosecuted for showing a high-capacity clip to Criminal Advocate Wayne LaPierre.

  15. ClubTwitty says:

    of people with Latino names and hardened criminals like David Gregory.  

    Troll’s back.  I guess my Christmas wish did not come true.  

  16. Libertad says:

    I thought you’d like to be aware of this so you might call your friends over at ACLU to help this man out.

    The law is the law and loopholes or not this killer (probably a rapist too) has the right to self deport.

  17. Diogenesdemar says:

    you’re supposed to welcome the return of this behavior and then nominate the dumb fucker . . . er, I mean . . . hearty soul . . . for FPE.

  18. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    friends at ACLU…sorry to disappoint.

  19. BlueCat says:

    Your Point?  If, as you say, the law is the law, then how is this a slam on the ACLU, libruls or anyone else? Wait.  Never mind.  Please don’t bother to answer.

  20. Serenitynow says:

    “The law is the law and loopholes or not this killer (probably a rapist too) has the right to self deport.”

    It’s hard to respond to any one of your posts when you just throw out blatant untruths.  There is no right to self deport.

    Local authorities will be allowed to prosecute him for murder and he can be subjected to whatever sentence the state judge imposes.  Following his service of that sentence, if still alive, he will be deported to his home country if he is indeed not a U.S. citizen.

  21. Old Time Dem says:

    But, I think your thought process is a bit difficult to follow when you’re high, so if you do actually have a point to make, could you try making it before you start blazing?

  22. Diogenesdemar says:

    one dumb fucker to consider that “criminal activity” .  . .

    Q.E.D.  . . . (again)

    How come none of your dumb-fucker ilk is pressing to have LaPierre charged under RICO . . . ?  He could be charged nearly hourly.

    Q.E.D.  . . . (again) . . . (again)

  23. Libertad says:

    DC PO-PO are investigating.

  24. Libertad says:

    I’d expect better, but of course this forums bloggers have downed every drop of the liberal leftist elixir.

    It’s presented above that a self admitted child killer, right here in our Colorado backyard, is on an ICE hold. It’s then presented that liberal leftists have a duty to help this killer escape justice.

    Yet all the elixir drinking fools here can do is deny they have friends at ACLU or claim this is somehow a racist post.

    Its interesting how your little minds work …. disturbing, but interesting.

  25. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    It must suck being you.

  26. Serenitynow says:

    “It’s then presented that liberal leftists have a duty to help this killer escape justice.”

    No idea what you’re talking about.  Are you saying he shouldn’t have the right to a criminal defense attorney?  That would be pretty extreme.

    “Yet all the elixir drinking fools here can do is deny they have friends at ACLU or claim this is somehow a racist post.”

    I have plenty of ACLU friends.  Just can’t sort out what your posts mean, I think because you have no idea how an immigration hold works.

  27. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:


    “the CPols collective”

    I love this…do you mind if I use it and proudly proclaim my membership in “the Coloradopols Collective”.?

    Try to remember to capitalize that C on Collective…OK?

  28. Libertad says:

    Just thought I’d let you know

  29. BlueCat says:

    really is in complete control of the situation no matter what anybody says including, but certainly not limited to, meanies here at ColPols. We clearly are ignorant and in need of more instruction. Just because Boehner can’t get his own House members to support him and had to pull his own plan for lack of his own members’ votes so now everyone knows he is a negotiator who can’t be counted on to deliver doesn’t mean he isn’t in complete control or that he doesn’t have all the power here. It just looks like he no longer has the power to impose his will, control his troops and get what he wants. How easily we’re fooled. Got it.

  30. ProgressiveCowgirlProgressiveCowgirl says:

    Sorry, I couldn’t keep him locked in my toolshed forever :( he kept complaining the WiFi signal wasn’t strong enough for him to grind his Tauren warrior up to 81.

  31. parsingreality says:

    Or, just a slow learner?

    Your team lost.  Big time.  Drubbed and thrubbed.  And you are a good example of why.

  32. gertie97 says:

    that the “family” voluntarily reduced its income several times in the past 10 years and sent “Junior” overseas on costly trips repeatedly. Meanwhile, the “head of the family” kept buying newer, more powerful and very expensive military-style weaponry.

    No wonder it’s broke.

  33. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    your math is wrong.

  34. ProgressiveCowgirlProgressiveCowgirl says:

    Do you have issues with your masculinity, Tad? Is that why you think sexually insulting another man is appropriate in this context?

    I have a feeling Duke would have nothing to be ashamed about if he had to whip it out for a literal pissing contest. You, on the other hand…. well, men who speak softly carry big sticks, and you’re the loudest fucker on here.  

  35. VoyageurVoyageur says:

    Are you about to come out?

  36. Diogenesdemar says:

    You don’t understand the difference between “an investigation,” and a braying lunatic’s determination of “obvious criminal activity,” do you?

    . . . (again) . . . and (again) . . . and (again)

  37. Lurker19 says:

    Can’t say I missed the Tadpole at all.

    Congrats on FPE, you do a great job.

  38. AristotleAristotle says:

    He’s made his bed here. Don’t you think he should have to lie in it?

  39. ProgressiveCowgirlProgressiveCowgirl says:

    If he wants to escape his reputation, it takes only a few clicks. If he chooses to continue using an account that should have been banned for racism months or years ago, then his reputation sticks to it. That’s how social sites work, as you know. Be a dick on Twitter, and the Internet remembers forever, unless some sort of act of contrition changes its mind.

  40. Diogenesdemar says:

    “mean girls” some of that ad-hominem behavior that so disgusts your refined sensibilities? . . .

    or are you merely being ironic? . . .

    (and please, gentle sir, I don’t mean “ironic” in any ad-hominem sense . . .

    I think I mean “ironic” in the sense that you are somehow able to stretch and distort the meaning of “political” to extend to the dumb f . . . er, whatshisname’s . . . posts today.)

  41. parsingreality says:

    ….’Tad posts stuff w/o analysis or comment, most of the time.  Lots of (usually plagarized) content but w/o telling us why he’s upset. It’s as if we are supposed to either suddenly see some kind of light, or read his mind.

    ‘Tad thrives on attention, good or bad.  It doesn’t matter to him.  

    After many months of pre-election diatribes – and have I mentioned his cut and paste pieces? – and long, long lists of Obama failures, what? We should recognize his genius?  That because he agreed Obama would win, eventually, that he’s now an intellect?

    No, he’s a boy trapped inside a man’s body being programmed by forces he cannot possible understand.

  42. Serenitynow says:

    Child killer, Esequiel Padilla-Villalobos, on immigration hold

    Alert, immigration lawyers have a duty to help this killer self deport before he faces tougher sanctions such as say murder of a child.

    His viewpoint is 180 degrees from what most here would take on them. But they were political posts on the issues with an opinion no more snarky than many made about Republicans.

    My comments on this post were mostly due to the fact that his “viewpoint” was indecipherable from the post.  And to call it a “political post on the issues” with and “opinion” is beyond generous.  What is the opinion he was trying to convey with this original post?  

  43. harrydobyharrydoby says:

    Hey Dave — mere minutes after your post, Governor Abercrombie chose his loyal lieutenant, who promises to make the Senate his life’s work.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

  44. dywer says:

    Only Mitch McConnel can call the house to order now.

  45. BlueCat says:

    very classy compared to what I had in mind.

  46. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    I wonder how much is Schatz backed Abercrombie from the start and how much is Hanabusa could have meant Djou in the house.

    Abercrombie is definitely his own man because this is his final job – he truly has no intention to hold office after being Gov. That let’s him make his own decision.

    My mom thinks its a good choice (which means he’s a strong environmentalist).

  47. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    Do you think wading through all the virpitrude above makes for an enjoyable experience?

  48. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    And how can someone learn and grow if they’re always treated according to the worst they’ve done in the past?

  49. ProgressiveCowgirlProgressiveCowgirl says:

    To get as low as the worst of Turdblossom.

    Your argument reminds me of a story that went viral in certain sections of the blogosphere last year: A woman at a nerdy convention was sexually harassed by a man. He later thought better of it and sought her out to apologize, cornering her, using dominating body language and insisting she accept his apology. That’s not an apology. That’s a demand for validation.

    When someone egregiously violates generally accepted standards of decency, whether with an individual or in a community, the only effective way to prove they’ve learned and grown is to stop asking that person or group for validation. If the Turd had learned or grown, he’d have learned that he behaved so badly here that he’s no longer welcome, accepted that as a consequence of his mistakes, and retired the Libertad login.

    I am not obliged to help him learn or grow. That is entirely in his court, and if he chooses to do it, we’ll know by his disappearance–and by the fact that his new account won’t be identifiable as the same ol’ Libertad.

  50. dwyer says:

    Boehner must call the house members to reconvene and vote on any measure that the Senate might pass.  Boehner must give the House Members 48 hours notice to come back to Washington.  So far, he has not done that.

    The House has passed two bills that are in the Senate…one is the Ryan budget, the other is a bill to extend ALL the taxes cuts.  Boehner has said that the Senate should vote on either or both of these bills. It is possible for the Senate to consider the tax bill and amend it to exclude those taxpayers making over 400,000.  However, there is a possibility that the Senate Republicans might just fillabuster the bill, but if it were to pass, …then the bill would go back to the House and the House could, theoretically, vote on it….IF BOEHNER would call the House into session, giving the members 48 hours notice… he has given no inclination that he is willing to do that.

    Mitch McConnell has no power to order the House to reconvene.

    I am  increasingly sensitive to voices on republican talk radio with limey accents who attack the US and spew forth all kinds of misstatements about our government.

    I now place you in the category, dywer….while I can’t hear your voice, you seem to be tasked with spreading misinformation.

  51. AristotleAristotle says:

    I either chuckle at the witty way in which he’s called out by various polsters (who correctly perceive that he is NOT making a valid point, but is making childish swipes – please reread all three of his posts), or I’m scrolling past.

    Here’s the thing, though. Libertad is the very embodiment of the degradation you decry. Even today, here, on these posts. The David Gregory one is perfect – righties making baseless charges against a prominent critic in an attempt to deprive him of his livelihood, and here is Libby to give that neo-McCarthyist sentiment a voice on Pols. It doesn’t get much more degraded than that.

    But he takes it further down the gutter, taking a tragic story of murder to try to make a ham-handed point about immigration. This is your idea of valid political discussion?

    Finally, he give us another cut n paste of figures, no source given but none needed as his history suggests it’s from a source as valid as those predicting Romney’s victory.

    This stuff would all be garbage if it were coming from a brand new, history-free polster. But Libertad isn’t new, and he has a long history which puts every post of his in a certain context. That context is that he is a troll, a classic internet troll who has no desire to have any kind of discourse, elevated or otherwise. And that means that he has earned the scorn and derision of this community.

    You’re free not to participate, of course. If you feel debased by it, that’s fine. But please don’t forget who Libertad is, and please do NOT be credulous about what he posts. Take the time to really dig into his posts. Follow his links and ask yourself if they say what Libby says they say. Don’t forget his history.

  52. Diogenesdemar says:

    “virpitrude” is . . .

    but, by god, wading through the vituperative on this site . . . well, that’s a f’n blast . . . er, IMHO . . . gentle sir.

  53. ClubTwitty says:

    Or is it the being a scold part that brings you pleasure?  

  54. BlueCat says:

    Hint. Pretty sure he knows the Senate minority leader doesn’t actually get to run the House.  

  55. BlueCat says:

    Couldn’t find anything close to  the form Dave uses under:

    VITUPERATIVE: uttering or given to censure : containing or characterized by verbal abuse.

    Guessing that’s he was going for.

     

  56. Gray in Mountains says:

    the Russian form as sung on Saturdays ;)

  57. BlueCat says:

    Grandma used to sing Oche Chornia (no idea how it’s spelled. Means brown eyes and I’m one of the only two grandchildren who has them) to me in her velvety contralto.  I’m  pretty sure it’s not Russian related. :)

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